Ep. 14 - Drag queen advocacy with Brigitte Bandit
#14 This episode’s guest is Brigitte Bandit! Brigitte (she/they) is a drag queen and activist based in Austin, TX. She’s known as the “Dolly of ATX” and is a cast member at Oilcan Harry’s, Coconut Club, and Cheer Up Charlie’s. Their advocacy work for the LGBTQIA+ community includes testifying at the Texas Capitol and serving on the City of Austin’s LGBTQIA+ Quality of Life Commission. Brigitte was also one of the plaintiffs in the recent successful lawsuit filed by ACLU Texas that blocked the Texas drag ban from taking effect.
Most recently, Brigitte made history as the first drag queen to speak at the Texas Democratic Convention. AND she was recently voted Best Drag Performer and Best Activist in the Austin Chronicle “Best of Austin 2024.”
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Links to resources mentioned in this episode:
Brigitte’s speech at the Texas Democratic Convention
Texas drag ban lawsuit
Big Tits, Bigger Dreams open mic night at Cheer Up Charlies’ in Austin
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FULL TRANSCRIPT
Mandy: Hey y'all and welcome to Everyday Trans Activism. I am your host, Mandy Giles. My pronouns are she, her, and I am the parent of two transgender young adults, and also the founder of Parents of Trans Youth.
I am so excited about today's guest, Brigitte Bandit. Brigitte is a drag queen and activist based in Austin, Texas.
She is known as the Dolly of Austin, Texas, and is a cast member at Oil Can Harry's, Coconut Club and Cheer Up Charlie’s. Their advocacy work for the LGBTQIA+ community includes testifying at the Texas Capitol and serving on the City of Austin's LGBTQIA+ Quality of Life Commission. Brigitte was also one of the plaintiffs in the recent successful lawsuit filed by ACLU Texas that blocked the Texas drag ban from taking effect.
Woo. Yay. Okay. Brigitte is an icon, a goddess, and just total badass. Welcome. I am so glad you are talking with me today.
Brigitte: Well, hi, thank you for having me.
Mandy: Okay, let's get right into it because I have like a million questions for you. So you were active in the 2023 Texas legislative session fighting against the drag ban. And so I'm going to reveal my ignorance here. Until I heard your testimony against SB12 and you went in full glorious drag, which by the way, a photo of you in full drag was named one of Time's top 100 photos of 2023.
Yeah. Okay. No big deal. Um, I didn't know that AFAB people, assigned female at birth, could be drag queens performing as a feminine character. And so I would love to hear about working in drag as an AFAB person and how that relates to the drag ban because I know that was really important in what you had to say in your testimony.
Brigitte: Yeah, well, yes, women can do drag, men can do drag, nonbinary people can do drag any way they can, any way they want, right? It's just, drag is just kind of playing with gender, and um, Um, what we expect from people with the, with how they present themselves. I don't know, but like whenever I'm in drag, people think I'm a man,
Mandy: Yeah.
Brigitte: It’s funny, but I look like a gorgeous Dolly Parton impersonator.
Mandy: Yes.
Brigitte: so I, I kind of knew I had this. Um, this misconception about me whenever I'm in drag that I wanted to use, um, whenever I went to go to testify, because the way that they had defined drag was a man dressed as a woman or a woman dressed as a man. And me, I was like an AFAB nonbinary person.
Mandy: Excuse me if I, if I misspoke about your gender.
Brigitte: that's okay because, because I think, I think for something like this is like, it's it doesn't, it's still breaking that misconception, right?
And I'm kind of exposing that these people don't really know what they're talking about. And of course they would absolutely, because they're a transphobic would consider me a cis woman, right? Which is whatever. The point still stands, you know? So, um, that's what I did is I went up there and in full drag, right?
And talked about kind of my experience working with kids and stuff like that. And kind of saved the fact that I'm somebody who's born female and does drag as a feminine persona for halfway through my speech to give it like a little reveal moment after everybody is kind of thinking that I'm just another dude, drag queen.
Mandy: Okay, because this is a show about trans activism, can you help our listeners understand the connection between the drag ban and the trans community and the harm that it could have possibly done to the trans community?
Because I think there's so much confusion out there. I mean, especially among very, um, I was going to say ignorant, but also ignorant and, um, unknowledgeable people about drag and trans and, and like the connection between the two and the, like you said, the way the ban was worded could have been applied in so many situations.
So can you tell me that connection and why that could have been harmful for the trans community?
Brigitte: Yeah, I think these lawmakers see no difference between like a drag queen and a trans person. So whenever they define, uh, like whenever they define drag queen, a man dresses a woman or a woman dresses a man. Of course that's going to, uh, uh, affect trans people. And, and these lawmakers, like I said, they, they don't understand the difference between a drag queen and a trans person.
They are trying to attack trans people with these kinds of laws, right? Because it would potentially affect, um, anybody who were to step on a stage that is trans, whether or not they are a drag performer or not, right? Like it would have affected like Pink Star, who is, a, uh, trans pop star here in Austin, right? And she does shows all the time. But this law would have affected her from performing as well.
So it wouldn't have just affected drag performers. It would have affected trans performers as well. And that, that is their intention. You know, it is rooted in transphobia. Absolutely.
Mandy: for sure. Um, like I had a friend say that a trans friend, you know, if, if she had gone to a park and sang happy birthday and there happened to be kids around, like that would have fallen under the ban. And then of course, you know, you think about, someone doing a Shakespeare play and then having the character, you know, whatever.
And I realized actually when, not to make this about me, but when I was in high school, we did a production of The Wiz, which by the way, it was like the whitest production of The Wiz that the world has ever seen. And my character, I was, Addapearl Pearl. And. For some reason the director had this vision of my character kind of like Bette Midler-ish, whatever.
And so I had this giant stuffed chest and then stuffed bottom. And so like, Oh my gosh, that would have fallen under this ban, like this high school production! But I think you're right in that at the root of it being transphobia and, and homophobia and just lawmakers looking for any way they can to attack the trans community and, all of that playing on people's fears in, in, in so many ways.
So, you recently spoke in full drag at the Texas Democratic Convention, which was awesome. You made history again, you know, like no big deal, but. you got a lot of pushback from, of course, you know, the ignorant, hateful, you know, right, whatever.
But I was surprised that you got some pushback from Democrats as well. Like even one of my favorite politics shows, I was really disappointed in them they said like that your speech was a distraction from the real issues. I almost wrecked my car because that's bullshit to, to say that LGBTQ rights and protecting trans kids and the trans community are not real issues. And I don't want to dwell on the, the pushback and the hate and everything that you have gotten. But what I want to hear, why did you say yes? And what did you hope to accomplish by being there? Cause I, I want to hear from, from you about that and not from all the trolls.
Brigitte: Yes. Yeah, that was, gosh, that was so disappointing. I know exactly the podcast that you were talking about. And whenever I heard that, you know, I will talk about that, but I was, I was, um, whenever I was invited to speak at the Texas Democratic Convention, I was really excited. I was the very first drag performer to speak at a Democratic convention and here in Texas, after everything that we've seen this year, I thought it was so important to show up, especially in full drag. And so I decided to go in full Dolly Parton drag. And what I did is I kind of used bits and pieces from other speeches I've done to draft my speech. And part of it was I had gone to testify in support of an initiative here locally in Austin at Austin City Hall to help deprioritize the trans youth health care ban here in Texas.
So it would deprioritize enforcement, basically helping make Austin a trans sanctuary city. So I talk
Mandy: Which y'all won, by the way.
Brigitte: Yes. Yeah. Like I was like, trans, healthcare is a, is a basic human right. Like all of this stuff that I said at Austin City Hall that I got no pushback on, you know, even, even though we had some far right-wingers who had also hired like armed private security to come speak against something that doesn't even affect them. I was like, y'all really love acting like the victims, but whatever. They were there and they listened to my speech and they didn't manipulate it or go off or do any of the kind of stuff that I saw with the way they did that, um, at the Texas Democratic Convention.
Because I went up there and it was important to talk about, uh, the drag ban stuff, but, but the drag ban was blocked. The thing that wasn't blocked was the trans youth health care ban. And so I thought it was really important to speak on that at the Texas Democratic Convention. But I did not think about the way that I was going to be in full drag talking about trans youth health care and the way that the far right was going to take my words out of context and, and run with it in really disgusting and disappointing ways. And instead of Democrats getting upset at them and exposing the way that they spread misinformation, they were upset that a drag queen was platformed, which was so disappointing because I got a standing ovation at, at the convention, like people loved me.
Like even there's posts from some, uh, Democrats and like other smaller Texas cities that were like, Brigitte Bandit spoke and she was so well received and all this stuff. And then on the internet, what happened was Libs of TikTok which I'm sure you're familiar with big hate group that likes to spread misinformation, took that little piece where I said, gender-affirming care is lifesaving and goes, Brigitte Bandit, a drag queen, advocates for child sex change surgeries at the Texas Democratic Convention.
I was like, I never fucking said anything about sex change surgeries, but that got reposted by Greg Abbott, Ted Cruz, multiple Texas politicians. And I was the center of controversy in Texas politics for a week. And it was so so freaking frustrating watching my speech and this moment that I had been given to advocate for my community be used almost against me and against my community.
And I was sitting there, like, gosh, did I just did I actually do more harm than good? And I was so gosh, I just felt so conflicted. But then I listened to that, that podcast where, what is it? The two white men talking about shit.
Mandy: Yes.
Brigitte: Okay. So of course, and the way that they talked about me was so disappointing because they say, they say, well, she doesn't talk about the appropriateness of drag story time.
I'm like, you're suggesting that it's still inappropriate. And yes, I did talk about it when I'm saying that, sitting there saying I'm wearing a full-length, long-sleeved, hot pink gown. There's nothing inappropriate about that. They literally played that clip and then go, well, she doesn't talk about the appropriateness of drag story time. I'm like, that is right there. It's in it, you know, and also by saying that you're suggesting that it could potentially be inappropriate. Why are y'all, y'all are literally caving in to the far-right rhetoric and it's really scary and it's really disappointing, but it also goes to show how important it is for us to continue to show up and advocating for our communities instead of relying on these other people to do it for us.
Another thing they said was, Well, and she didn't talk about, like education and things that would help benefit all kids, including trans kids. And I'm like, but do y'all not understand that they are specifically targeting trans kids specifically? Like, I understand that we can do better here in Texas for all kids, okay?
But to sit there and ignore the way that they are intentionally targeting a very small group of, of kids, of queer children, that's so, it's just so frustrating and that was very disappointing. And I really think that over time, people are going to look back at this and understand it in a more positive way, right?
And be able to hold themselves accountable, hopefully for, for, for caving into this far-right, uh, rhetoric and ideas. So, that's been really hard to watch, but I still believe that going up and doing what I did was important. And after all the doubts and everything that I've had, I'm really proud of myself.
And also I've had so many queer people that were so excited to see me on the stage and also queer kids excited to see me on the stage talking about them. So that's what matters. That's what matters. And just because these people don't have any queer friends that were excited to see me. It goes to show that that's why it's important for us to keep showing up because they don't, we can't rely on these people, these other people, you know? So, yeah. Gosh, but it's been a whirlwind of a week.
Mandy: I can only imagine. Oh my gosh. I mean, yeah. How'd you like to be on, uh, the national stage all of a sudden? Um, wait. Speaking of that, I mean, I, I was gonna ask you about this later, but might as well, I think I saw on your Instagram, are you gonna be DC next week and doing something big? What's going on?
Brigitte: I am so thrilled. Like, honestly, it's kind of like almost, it's like clockwork, right? Like I, like I said, I feel like time will just kind of change people's perspectives and minds. And I'm so grateful that I have the opportunity to go speak at the U.S. Capitol. We're going to have a drag lobby day where I'm going in a custom look to go speak with members of Congress about protections for queer people.
Uh, on a federal level instead of, uh, just relying on states, right? So we're going to go speak with members of Congress. And then I will also have an opportunity to speak in front of the Capitol to a ton of press. And I'm going to talk about what I experienced this past week and then also the way that all of the Texas lawmakers who were arguing that I was inappropriate for children last week, be completely silent about that pastor that has been exposed as a child abuser.
This week that they all have pictures with, they all hang out with as a Trump supporter has been completely silent. I'm like, oh, I am going to blast them and just expose their hypocrisy at this event. So I am, yeah, that's what I'm going to work on after this is my speech, but I am ready to go.
Mandy: Oh, I cannot wait.
Brigitte: It's given me so much hope because I'm like, gosh, I can finally, uh, uh, take back this narrative hopefully, and get people instead of, uh, spreading this idea that drag queens can't advocate for themselves, like just use it to become louder and say, no, we can continue to show up and advocate for ourselves in our queer community, righ?.
Mandy: Oh my gosh. I love, oh, I think some. I just love that you wanna be louder because I think, well, I, I was gonna say some people like me, if that had happened to me, I probably would go crawl into my bed and just not come out for a very long time. But also I know that, that you have been active on, on many different levels and, uh, it sounds like the kind of person you are that you're not going to back down.
And it kind of going back just to, to that, with that podcast, like disappointing was the, the words that I was thinking of as well. And kind of connecting those two things that you said, we can't rely on people like that who maybe think they are allies? Do I, can I say that? Um, normally I like, well, Okay, we'll just go on because I don't want to bash them too much.
But, but anyway, certain people who think they are allies and yet when the going gets rough, they're not. And so like you said, we've got to take it back, take back your narrative and get even louder. So I cannot wait for that. I want to see that everywhere, all over social media, whatever. And so that I can watch it a million times and go from the comfort of my, my screen, So that is super exciting.
And I don't know if, if you're going to take this with you, maybe on your trip, I heard that you received a custom guitar from THE Dolly Parton herself. I don't know. Maybe that's old news, but that. That's really cool. Like yay, Dolly. And yay you. So tell me how that came to be.
Were you, were you surprised? Did you know it was coming?
Brigitte: I know I had no idea. So, Dolly's family actually does drag. So her niece does drag as Miss Mona Holler in Tennessee.
Mandy: I love it.
Brigitte: Drag artists and, uh, drag queen artists. And so she saw, because Tennessee sees a lot of the anti-drag stuff as well. Um, she saw what was happening here in Texas. And whenever I went to testify the first time I had, because I do a lot of Dolly Parton impersonation work, I had a book about Dolly, a kid's book about Dolly, whenever I went to testify, open on a page that said, Dolly loved wigs and lots of makeup, and some people might have thought it was too much but she liked it and the kids did too. And I just love that. Like it just gave me like this strength and sense of empowerment, you know?
And also I love the way that Dolly handles herself, especially whenever she's being judged and misunderstood. Like she's always just held so much grace and humor about it. And, nobody can really shake her, or make her doubt herself, right? So I, I just wanted to carry that with me almost literally and figuratively, uh, whatever it was to testify. So, her niece saw it and, and showed it to Dolly and Dolly signed a guitar for me. And then they put custom rhinestones on it to match one of her very favorite guitars.
And, uh, they sent it to me and, and presented it to me at my drag show. I had no idea what was going on. They just like sat me down and like. We had like this cute little video and then they were like, and now you get a gift from Dolly Parton. And I was like, is this a joke? It's crazy. But it's, so now, you know, when things get really hard, like they were last week, it's nice to be like, well, I do have that guitar from Dolly Parton. It keeps me going sometimes.
Mandy: Oh, my gosh. How incredibly special and, oh, my gosh, Mona Holler. I love it. Um. Oh, that's amazing. Well, yes, I'm, I'm glad you, you, you will always have Dolly to, to fall back on, but I have a feeling, yeah, after next week, you're, you're going to have a lot more, uh, fans and followers and, that's going to be a fun time.
So, I wanted to hear what advice you might have for people who wanted to get involved in their communities, for, trans rights or LGBTQ rights, because I know you're involved on many different levels and I get that kind of question all the time. Like, how do I even start? What do I do? And so, both allies and people in the queer community, what, what advice would you have?
Brigitte: Um, I think a simple thing that I always tell people is to have conversations with your friends and family. You know, I think that is a really powerful way instead of instead of, uh, all this stuff that gets circulated on the Internet or whatnot. Whenever you hear something. About an issue from a trusted source and somebody that you care about.
It can really help either change or establish a certain perspective. So I think even the simple thing of just having conversations about misconceptions or ideas or um, about what trans youth health care is, what a drag queen is, any of those things matters so much right now. So I think as simple as a conversation and, um, and to talk about those things, obviously, uh, share, resources and, Ideas and, stuff on the internet, you know, as there's so much stuff, misinformation that gets circulated on the internet easily.
And it's really important that we circulate, the truth just as much.
Brigitte: And show up to support the community, however you can, especially whenever we see these bills being introduced, like just going and dropping a card at the Capitol, which is kind of like you just show up and register your support or your opposition for a bill.
And it's super easy. You just go by, drop the card and that's it. And, and you've, you've helped. So there's different ways to show up on, on different levels, but those are some things I would say.
Mandy: Yeah, And I like how you answered that, because I think some people will think that activism is only, you know, standing on the steps of the Capitol with a megaphone. And that's really great to do and fun for some people and not so fun for other people. And so, yeah, just those personal conversations, cause that's really where, I think the true change is where you can change people's minds or at least make headway, I guess, and, and have a more respectful conversation, hopefully, rather than just sort of like shouting into the void or whatever, but sometimes it feels good to shout into the void as well, for sure. And especially, yeah, getting involved at the Capitol, whether it's dropping a card or testifying or just like, I know people who just show up and just like hang out with all the, the advocates in the community room, just. Well, cause it's fun, but also like to be there for other people and tell you what next year is going to be a shit show because everything that we see that is going on in the country right now, it's coming to Texas next year.
Brigitte: Yeah.
Mandy: um, yeah, I anticipate many trips from, from Houston for me to up to the Capitol for next year.
Brigitte: they're already suggesting reintroducing the drag ban. Um, on my testimony, they, they are on my, from my speech at the thing. Senator Brian Hughes, who was the one who wrote it initially was like, well, we're going to have to try this again. I was like, see you next session.
Mandy: I mean, can you,
Brigitte: And I already, I already have ideas about what I'm going to wear and what I'm going to say. They're messing with the wrong person. Ooh, I'm like ready to go.
Mandy: Oh, you've got your speech already. I don't know how they can even do that. I am not a policy expert, so I am not sure. I'll have to, okay, well, we'll be ready.
So I'm curious how you see the roles of allies in any of this kind of work, like we were talking about before, maybe some people who are well-intentioned might cause more harm than good or, or even, when I think about drag and I hear about like, you know, the bachelorette parties going in, like taking up space in drag show or whatever, and like not being respectful.
So I think there, there's different camps of like - allies, cishet people go over there please or just don't be in the front or whatever it is. I don't, I wanted to hear what, what your views are about that.
Brigitte: About allies.
Mandy: Yeah. And like where they should be.
Brigitte: I think allies are important. I think it's important to understand that a lot of these oppressive forces and systems that we have all work together and affects all of us in different ways. Right? Like, I think the trans, the drag ban is also rooted in misogyny, you know, because they see drag as inherently sexual because they don't understand why somebody would want to dress in a feminine way because of the way they sexualize women, right? Or dress in a feminine way without being sexualized because of the way they sexualize women. Right.
Mandy: Yeah.
Brigitte: so, so all of our struggles are interconnected. Right. So we all have to kind of be allies with each other to, to get this going. Right. But it's also important to understand. Uh, things are, these oppressive systems are going to affect people in different ways, and you need to give space for the people who are being targeted or who are being affected the most to speak about it and to listen to them.
And, not do the things like the other podcast did, where you say it would have been better if they didn't show up, it would have been better if they stayed silent, you know, it's like, you're literally, you're arguing the same far right viewpoints, right? You think that it would have been better if I didn't show up.
You don't want us to be seen. You don't want queer people to be visible or platformed, right? And that's when it's like, okay. This, uh, this sense of allyship actually is harming us. And it's not helpful. So I think it's really important to be mindful and intentional about the ideas that you're spreading and to sit down whenever a person who is being targeted or attacked is speaking on their experiences.
And yeah, the bachelorettes at the drag shows go crazy sometimes. I love women at the drag shows. I think, you know, as much disrespect as I've gotten from bachelorettes, I've gotten just as much from the cis gay men and, and the gay bars. So, you know, I think that, it can come from so many different ways and, sources, but, gosh, to be an ally, you really do have to take a seat sometimes and let other people speak. And amplify their voice instead of saying like, Oh, somebody could have done it better. No, you know, listen to them.
Mandy: Yeah, I mean, literally now I'm thinking more about not only did we're really ragging on them, but um, not only did they say like, you shouldn't even been there, like literally erasing you, taking you out of the picture, taking queer people out of the picture. They kind of waffled a little bit at the end, but, but saying like, here's what, what they should have said or taking your voice rather than just listening.
Cause I was listening. I was like, yes, everything, frankly, I thought maybe, cause I just have, I haven't seen a whole lot of what the backlash is. I just don't want to go there.
Brigitte: Yeah, it's not fun. Yeah
Mandy: I thought it was going to be on one little word, Palestine. And I thought, Oh, people are going to freak out. But I didn't realize that it was about like gender affirming care.
And like, for me in my world, I was like, yes, of course you would be talking about that. Because that's what we've been dealing with in Texas. so I just, yeah, didn't even know. There are people who need to know the connections, like you said, with all these oppressive forces, it's all connected. And in ways that people sometimes don't understand, and sit down guys and, and let somebody else talk.
Brigitte: Yeah. And I mean, that's why I get so frustrated with like TERFs and transphobic women, especially. I'm like, a lot of them are falling for the same misogynistic ideas, that affect, uh, trans people, right? That also affects them. I'm like, y'all are weird. Like, do y'all not understand that? Like, All that, especially the struggle for women and the struggle for trans people are especially interconnected and, and y'all are just working against yourselves by trying to work against trans people.
So,
Mandy: all right. I don't want to take up too much more of your time. Is there anything else that you wanted to talk about today that related to activism or trans rights?
Brigitte: yeah, yeah. I really hope that like queer youth here in Texas feel seen and supported, especially right now with everything that's happening. So, uh, you know, I appreciate the work that you do and that we're able to have these conversations and that we're able to change the narrative and also talk about how our voice is taken from us.
So this has been really nice. I appreciate it, you know, and, uh, yeah. And I also think that it's important to you know, you said earlier that,it would be hard to continue getting louder. Right. And the only reason I can do it is because of the support in the community. Right. And that I see the amount of people that are rooting me on and the amount of people that, uh, that really, it means a lot too, so, all the support and it's a, it's a community thing.
We're all in this together and I could never do this alone, I could not do it alone. Thank you so much for having me.
Mandy: Yes, definitely. And thank you so much for your time today. I know you are busy, busy, busy during Pride month especially. So where can people find you if you want them to find you now? Um, are you promoting , are you promoting anything right now? where do you want them to go? How can we support you?
Brigitte: I do drag all the time in Austin, so I'm a full time drag artist, so I do shows pretty much every single weekend. If you want to come see me and, uh, tip me, um, just celebrate queer joy together. I have all my events linked in my bio on my socials, which is at Brigitte Bandit, B R I G I T T E Bandit.
Okay. And, um, come to the show sometime. It's so much fun. And if you can't make it to show you can also at that same link that all my cash app and Venmo, if you want to digitally tip me is always appreciated, you know, this work, this stuff takes a lot of time and it's not, you know, it's a free gig.
So anything I could get really matters. Oh, also, if anybody's interested in trying drag, especially here in Texas, and you're looking for a really open, inclusive, and diverse stage, I host an open drag sign-up night the first Saturday, of every month at Cheer Up Charlie's called “Big Tits Bigger Dreams” So if you're interested in doing drag follow me and come join us because it's so much fun
Mandy: Oh, how fun. I'll have to make sure that my next trip is like you said the first Saturday of the month.
Brigitte: First Saturday of every month and we were just nominated for best drag show in Austin. I'm so proud of it. It really has changed the shape of what Austin drag is. It's made it way more inclusive and diverse, and I'm so proud of it. So even if you don't want to, yeah, even if you don't want to do it, just come see it because it's so much fun.
Mandy: yeah. For sure. Okay. So you said you were just nominated. Is there somewhere that people can vote for that? What is the timeline on that?
Brigitte: well, the results come out at midnight actually. So I was so,
Mandy: okay. Okay.
Brigitte: I was nominated for best drag performer and I was also nominated for best activist and then show was nominated best drag show. So I'm just so already honored just to be nominated. But, uh, but I'm also a little, I'm a little nervous about the results later.
Mandy: Oh, I have a good feeling about those results. So listener, we are recording on June 19th, Juneteenth. And so the results will be out by the time you hear this. So I am, Ooh, okay. I have a good feeling about it. So I will go and check those out after. I'm old, so I will not be up at midnight, but I will go check those tomorrow.
That is so exciting. Okay. So, listener, if you want to show a whole lot of gratitude for Brigitte and her work and every wonderful thing that she does, please consider supporting them. Tip your drag queen because they are amazing and all the links. I will put the links in the show notes and I'll put them in the episode description.
And so you can find them very easily and yeah, all in, in their socials and all such good stuff. So, Brigitte, thank you so much for taking the time to talk with me today. You're a rock star, and I really hope I get to see you in person soon.
Brigitte: Yes. Yeah. Come to a show sometime. We can hang out.
Mandy: Yay.
Brigitte: Thank you so much for having me.
Mandy: Okay. Thanks. Bye.