Ep. 11 -Honoring racial and gender identities with Dr. Julius Johnson-Weaver
#11: This episode’s guest is Dr. Julius Joi Johnson-Weaver! Dr. Weaver (he/him) is a graduate of Princeton University and Temple School of Medicine. Dr. Weaver is a Black, neurodivergent, transgender, non-binary, board-certified physician with more than 20 years of clinical experience. He is the new board president of the nonprofit Queer Trans Project, which delivers queer-friendly kits to the LGBTQIA+ community and offers transportation of TGD people to healthcare providers for gender-affirming care.
He is also on a community advisory board of the Children's National Hospital that focuses on trans and gender-diverse youth with HIV and a community advisory board that focuses on LGBTQIA+ and disabled patient experiences founded by the WITH Foundation. Dr. Weaver is an active community member and activist around racial, sexual, and gender minority issues and provides one-on-one and organization training on transgender and gender-diverse issues.
Dr. Weaver’s practice website is www.resolvemd.org. You can also follow Dr. Weaver on Instagram and Tiktok @thetransmd and follow his practice on Instagram @rmd_proud and @resolvemd_dpc
Links to resources mentioned in this episode:
Queer Trans Project
The Risk It Takes To Bloom by Raquel Willis
@mdsafehaven (Iya Dammons)
@translashmedia and TrashLash Podcast (Imara Jones)
QTP Loveline
Gender Grip
Children’s National Hospital
WITH Foundation
Baltimore Safe Haven
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Host Mandy Giles (she/her) is the Texas parent of two transgender young adults and a fierce advocate for trans kids, their families, and the transgender community.
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FULL TRANSCRIPT
Mandy: Hey, y'all, and welcome to Everyday Trans Activism. I am your host, Mandy Giles, my pronouns are she, her, and I am the parent of two transgender young adults, and I'm also the founder of Parents of Trans Youth.
Today's guest is Dr. Julius Joi Johnson-Weaver, a graduate of Princeton University and Temple School of Medicine. Dr. Weaver is a Black, neurodivergent, transgender, non-binary, board-certified physician with more than 20 years of clinical experience. He is the new board president of the nonprofit Queer Trans Project, which delivers queer-friendly kits to the LGBTQIA+ community and offers transportation of TGD people to healthcare providers for gender-affirming care.
He is also on a community advisory board of the National Children's Hospital that focuses on trans and gender-diverse youth with HIV and a community advisory board that focuses on LGBTQIA+ and disabled patient experiences founded by the WITH foundation. Dr. Weaver is an active community member and activist around racial, sexual, and gender minority issues and provides one-on-one and organization training on transgender and gender-diverse issues.
That's a lot. Dr. Weaver, thank you for talking with me today and taking the time. I am glad you're with me and please add anything else you want to, to your introduction.
Dr. Weaver: Thank you so much, Mandy. And I think that that was a great introduction. Those are the things that I sort of have my hand in right now. And so, so that was wonderful.
Mandy: I am curious what drove you to pursue gender care as a field that you are specializing in and how your identity as a transgender person maybe informed that journey because I know that's a big part of what you do in your practice right now. And I would imagine that that probably had a lot to do with it, but I wanted to hear that story.
Dr. Weaver: Absolutely. Well, I would say I have been practicing, as you mentioned, for over 20 years and typically the patients that attract to my practice, are patients in some level are from a marginalized community. And that was initially, you know, even beyond trans folks, but that would be Black or women or disabled because I practice from a lens of so many intersectional identities that are classically discriminated against.
So, as I started to go along my own gender journey, I already had patients in my practice that I was really providing an affirming safe space for. And as I started to go through my own gender journey and met with so much resistance and challenges in healthcare, it was a no-brainer to say, well, I would love to offer gender-affirming care.
I would love for my own community to have a place where they can come and feel safe and heard. And just to have a doc who even has that lived experience, which is, I feel is pretty valuable. So that's sort of how I've, I've arrived where I am now, offering gender-affirming care through an arm of ResolveMD primary care and it's called RMD Proud.
Mandy: I know that is incredibly important to have someone who understands you and respects you when you go to the doctor's office. I, I don't have the lens of a lot of the identities that, that you mentioned, but knowing, like say going with my kids to any kind of doctor's office is, oh, it's always a challenge.
We never quite know like, oh, are they going to get the name right? Oh, is this nurse going to use the pronouns or especially with one of my kiddos who received a gender-affirming procedure before they were 18 at a children's hospital in Houston. That was quite a journey and the resident who took my child's history: I didn't see the signs, but my kid picked up on it. That person just so happened to be transgender and to have that person understand my kid. And so my kid didn't have to go the, well, so this is what nonbinary means, you know, and I had to leave the room crying because I was so joyful and upset.
So, yes, I can definitely understand the importance of that. So, I wanted to hear a little more about that, about having a trans-led practice and trans-informed, and how that would impact the kind of gender care that you give your patients.
Dr. Weaver: Yeah. And I think it's, that's a beautiful story that you shared. And I think it's exactly what you're saying. It's, you, as a, as a person, a patient, coming into an office, you're in a vulnerable space. And now we add this additional identity that right now the country is basically saying you don't have a right to exist, many parts of the country are saying that, to come in and sort of realize, Oh, someone gets it.
It's just this sigh of relief, but we have to understand: think about the nervousness that you described in your kid probably had even leading up to that point. That's stressful. So to be able to offer that space, to create an affirming space is just so invaluable to me. And it has to start. You have to really look at your whole practice.
You have to start from the beginning to the end. You have to look at, you have to look at your website. You have to look at the language that you use. You have to use all the documents you are giving out. You have to train your front office staff. Because if a patient, by the time they've gotten to me, they've been misgendered, they've been told, no, you can't have your chosen name on documents.
Wait, you know, looks of sort of, I don't know what's going on here, or just a lack of understanding. It doesn't matter how affirming I am. You know, I mean, it does matter, but it's just that you've had to wade through so much just to get to me. And so it's been rewarding to create a practice from beginning to end that can be affirming.
And I will say this because some doctors feel overwhelmed with that. It takes time and there's a lot of learning involved. I have made mistakes, and I will continue to make mistakes even from a trans-lived experience. So, we have to take the time, give ourselves some graciousness, but know that it's necessary and provide this space from beginning to end for our patients.
Mandy: I like the idea of beginning to end because I think that is something that is so misunderstood about gender-affirming care. A lot of people think that it's just it's the hormones. It's the puberty blockers, it's a surgery, it's the whatever. To be, to be recognized and respected by the first person you meet when you walk in the door, you're right, like the website to be able to use inclusive language.
You mentioned that you've made mistakes, and I'm wondering, I'm not going to ask, I'm not going to like out your mistakes, but, I'm wondering in terms of like maybe systems or procedures, if that, if there's something that maybe you learned from and said, okay, we need to do this differently in practice.
Not necessarily like, you know, you misgendering somebody. Because we, I think we all do that and then correct ourselves and move on. But I'm curious if there's anything you might want to share about that.
Dr. Weaver: Well, one of, this is the tricky part, is we have to understand there are processes that need to be put into place. Everyone needs to go through training, understand some of the basics. There needs to be visual aids. You know, make sure that not everybody on the wall is white, cis, and hetero. You know, those kinds of things in pictures and images.
But we also have to remember beyond our policies that these are people, and so there may be nuanced difference. One trans person may prefer something, and another may not. And so my mistake was honestly, when I dealt with my first trans patient, and I wasn't trans myself at that time, though I do think that I was a very affirming doctor, I didn't know they weren't out at work.
And, you know, it was one of the things that they liked me, but they didn't continue with me. Because I didn't understand that and think to ask. And so the stakes are a little high. We have to remember everyone, even though there's some basics we need to know, we do have to ask a lot of questions. We have to know, you know, who knows, where are you safe?
Are you passing in some situations and people don't know? And so there are little nuances, but I do think the more that we seek to learn, you know, educate ourselves, and remember these are human beings, so everyone has a little bit of a different story. That'll go a long way.
Mandy: The questions sound key and learning about your patients. And I'm thinking about the times when I go to the doctor and feel rushed out. And I'm wondering if maybe that is why your clinic, your practice, is structured the way it is. In a membership model. I believe I saw, the word concierge on the website.
And I know that when I've seen that in different practices that offer it for, for doctors I go to, there's more time that you get to spend with the doctor. And so I'm wondering if those questions and the getting to know the patient, if those are connected. I guess tell me about your business structure, because I think it sounds perfect for, for what you're doing.
Dr. Weaver: I think you're right. It's a perfect segue to this idea of, do we need more time? And I will say, the time affords us getting to know the patient, so even if we do make those little mistakes, there still might be a stronger trust and bond there. You know, there's a comfortability, like, you know, doc, you can't do this.
You know, this is the mistake. I'm still giving you a chance because I've established this rapport with you. And there's some safety there versus I saw you for 20 minutes. You made this mistake and maybe I just need to find someone else. So my practice, I worked many years in large organizations. I was the lead physician in many of the big organizations that I worked in.
And I realized after that, about that time, it was about 15 years of practice that I wanted to slow the pace down. You hear the same thing from patients. We like you, but we can barely get in with you. We like you, but we wish we had more time. And, and physicians get very good at going into a practice, into an exam room, and really kind of like, I see you, I hear you, and still get things done.
But it is, it's, it's tight, the amount of patients we need to see. So slowing down care was, is a big part of why I opened up my primary care practice. It is concierge-like in the sense that it's, you know, you pay a monthly fee, and what you are paying a monthly fee and we're not using insurance for is, again, that sort of care.
If you need to say, Hey Doc, I just need you for 15 minutes for a quick sick visit versus Doc, I have some complex things to talk about and we'll schedule an hour.
Mandy: So I noticed on your website that you also offer a family course. And I wanted to hear about that. And it's seven months. So I'm like that, that would be a lot of instruction. And like, I want to take that because that sounds like I could be a better parent for my kiddos. Tell me about that.
Dr. Weaver: Absolutely. What, as we both know right now, there are so many laws out there that are really harmful to trans folks. And we know that the world unfortunately is largely not an affirming place for trans folks. And our kids are the most vulnerable. We know the high rates of, you know, anxiety, depression, and unfortunately suicide attempts and successes.
And so what I have learned over the many years of practicing is that everyone needs a foundation. And home is that foundation for our kids. And so, I have parents coming to me like, I'm so scared, my kid is trans, what do I do? Well, you can't control the world. You're going to be an advocate for that kid at doctor's appointments, at their school and all that, but you cannot change the world.
So that's what this program is. It is about unpacking your own transphobia and learning how to be an advocate for your kid. And not necessarily the details of advocacy, but the overall, you need to understand your kid. One of the things I like to say is, you know, love, unfortunately, is not enough. If we look at, outside of being, outside of just transgender issues, if we look at something like racism, and people say, well, I'm kind to all people, I can't be racist.
We know that's not true. This is a society where racism is ingrained in everything that we do, and you have to do the work to undo that. It's the same with transphobia. We've all been given transphobic messages all of our lives, and we don't even know them. So how can we say we love our kid and we'll do the best if we haven't unpacked that?
So the course is about unpacking the transphobia, unpacking some of your fears, and learning what it means to be trans and how to take care of a trans kid. And we will do it synchronously, so you will get one on one with me, and then some asynchronous work. The touches are at least four times a month in, in one of those fashions and a little bit of homework in there as well.
And in these sessions, whether your kid could be present and sometimes not, because really we don't want to put all the onus on the kid. We really want to focus on you. You'll have time to ask questions as well. And I tell people, this is not me being a doctor. This is really, I mean, it is from my experience, but I'm not your doctor in this situation.
Mandy:. So it sounds like almost an educator or consultant kind of role for parents. That's so, so helpful. And to understand, well, first of all, unpacking that transphobia, whether you realize you have it or not, is huge. I know I've talked to parents that they, They're kind of stuck in wanting to support their kids, but maybe not knowing how.
And they don't even know, like thinking like, well, I just want my kid to be normal. I want them to have a normal life. And like, Whoa, let's back up like 10 steps there. And. And so I think that would be an important part of any kind of education. And then to learn that from a trans person, I think is also important.
Cause like for me, there's only so far I can go and I can, I can relate to parents from the parent piece, but like, if you want to learn about the trans experience, you need to go to a trans person and not me because I am not.
You had mentioned racism, and I know that working against racism and health care is important to you, just on all fronts. And I wanted to hear a little bit about Black trans people seeking health care and that intersectionality and the challenges and the barriers and the resistance I think you mentioned that they might face and how, because obviously that's informed your work and why you're doing what you do. And I wanted to hear a little bit more about that.
Dr. Weaver: Yeah, and I, I can talk about that from two perspectives. One as the just being trans as a patient, and then one from, you know, being a physician. I hold two identities, two, I hold many, we all do, but two very strong ones are being Black and trans. But I have been Black all my life, and you learn you're Black from society, unfortunately.
And I have met a lot of discrimination. My high school years, I went to an all I was in an all white, very white town. A very small percentage are from minorities, and even smaller are just Black folks. And I excelled in that town, but again, met with a lot of oppression. And unfortunately, what I find is some spaces that are all white can be harmful.
And sadly, this is also true of trans white spaces. And so what a physician needs to understand is when you are giving resources to a patient who is Black and trans, you have to understand that trans is their identity. But being Black is as well. And if I know as a trans person, I've gone to trans meetups and focus groups and all of that, and I felt not safe, then you have to, I'm not going to say juggle, but you have to understand that intersection and provide resources and comfort in a way that honors the racial identity as well as that gender identity.
And I've talked to trans people about this as well and about spaces that aren't diverse enough. They have to be diverse, and we have to understand as trans folks, we still have to unpack all of our other isms too. Because if we don't, all we are is pushing forward transgender rights, probably on the foundation of things, of other rights, like civil rights, disability rights, things that we are learning from.
We can't do that and not unpack our own racism. We have to bring everyone along, right? And so being Black and trans, I, I love being Black and trans. But some spaces aren't always safe for me and I recognize that in my patients. So I try to speak to their intersectionality too. I don't want to ignore that.
Mandy: I'm wondering, I know you do a lot of telehealth as well. Can you provide care to people outside Maryland? Or do you have to only treat Maryland residents?
Dr. Weaver: Right. So right now I have a license in Maryland and I'm in the process of my Virginia license and Washington D. C. license. It's a long time coming. So those are coming with the next few months. Actually, license is coming hopefully in a month. So for my medical telehealth services, it is in the DMV area. When I'm talking about my counseling classes, that can be across the country because again, I’m not acting as your physician, I'm acting more in a consultation role.
There's a times when I've held many, many licenses across the country. So could I go back to that? That's possible. I can just see right now, solidly in the DMV, for the medical services.
Mandy: Oh, and I had asked that in terms of the resources available and services, so it sounds like there's a lot in that area
Dr. Weaver: Well,
Mandy: places to well, and like, it's too, like going to YouTube and it's like, Oh, this person is, is, has a great tutorial on tucking or whatever it is. So that's good. I think I interrupted you.
Dr. Weaver: no, that's what I'm saying. I mean, it's really - It's not that it's necessarily a plethora of those resources, but they're there and it's just making sure that they're centered. First if, if possible in a line of resources, because again, we're uplifting them. So I, and so when I think about across the country, what I'm looking for, I am, I have resources across the country because I do get people calling me constantly.
Like, do you provide gender-affirming care? And it's people from Florida and people from Texas, sadly, because they're, and then also sometimes I get, you know, it's really funny because I have a consultation button on my email and on my website. Some of the consultations are just really, It'll just be a trans kid, like, I just want to talk, you know, and I, and I do, and I give them the time and I, you know, I tell them, you know, it's not something I can do all the time because I won't, I don't have the resources myself to, but if, if they're wrong and they're just asking questions, it's like, I don't know who to trust, I don't know what I'm reading, if this is accurate, if this is not. Hopefully we get there where there's more accurate information across the board that they can trust, and they're not scared. Hey, maybe this is someone who's writing this that’s trying to harm me. I will get there. But you know, social media, all of that doesn't allow us to have more access these days.
Mandy: Thinking about the kids, I'm going to cry, contacting you. And I think that also goes back to the beginning to end affirming care and starting with the website and your social media resources and knowing that you are a person that they can feel safe and comfortable with. I'm curious if there, and you may not be able to say any of this, but is there any kind of patterns or themes to what kids are looking for from you?
Dr. Weaver: so, questions about binding. As I do think I attract probably more trans masc and trans men, trans boys because, you know, they're seeing themselves and what is safe. And every time I think, is this overstepping when I post something?
A short story here is when I first came out, so I lived my life as a cis female for decades. And when I first started to explore my own sexuality and realized like, Oh yeah, I'm queer. And I had my own practice. I said, should I write this on my website? Like, should I introduce myself? And I, I belabored this, like, this is too personal. Like, why would you tell people that you're queer? You know, people don't need to know this by their doctor, but I said, but I want to attract those patients so they'd have a safe space.
And so I put it up. And I remember just going to sleep and thinking, Oh, this is just too much. This is well before I've been doing my social media, which is a lot more personal and I'm more comfortable with it now. The next day, I'm not lying.
The next day I got a call from a parent and said, we're interested in your care. We don't, I'm not sure if we can right now, if we want to pay for it, but I did just want to call you and say, I've never seen someone, a professional, a physician who said that on their site. And it gives me hope for my kid who just came out to me. And I know they're gonna be okay. Like it was just I couldn't believe it.
I was, I was, I was floored. And it was like my sign to say, you know what?
Mandy: Oh, I’m crying!
Dr. Weaver: We can't practice in a silo. I have these identities and I want to inspire people. So I'm going to go full force with letting you know who I am so that you can see yourself. Some people may say, well, why, why would you do that? But, I get affirmation from people who need it.
And that's why
Mandy: Yeah. Oh gosh. Well, I can see that on, on so many fronts of people who see themselves in you. And like you said, in the, the pictures you choose to, to put on the walls in your office or, or on your website. But also from a maybe even more personal for say parents or other individuals who's taking care to, to see that hope and just this successful doctor guy, you know, if I hope I'm not overstepping by using those words. Just, just knowing that there, that there is care.
And I know just from a parent perspective to like seeing the doctor for my kid and knowing that there are doctors out there and professionals in a world that will see my kid and my kid will be okay. It may not be the whole world, but it's out there. And like, it's an even seeking, like when you, when you seek your resources to be able to for your patients as the patient seeking resources and knowing that they're there. And it might take a little bit more work to find them. But you're making it easy and not having to guess. And like, I wonder if, and I hear that from parents all the time, how do you know if a doctor is affirming? Cause you just, sometimes you just can't tell on their website.
And then you, especially in places like Texas, if you go in and say like, Hey, my kid is trans, you don't know if they're going to call CPS on you. So and that's a whole other topic. Um, so, so I'm glad that, that you are, are doing that. And obviously it's, it's so needed for on many, many fronts. So, so yay. Yay you.
So what you are doing on a, a personal and public level is the work for trans equality and trans rights and access to services just in, in the work that you do. And I'm wondering if you have any advice for other people who are looking to get involved either in advocacy or like people all the time said, well, what, what can I do? I'm just one person. How do I get started in making the world a better and safer place for, for trans people. And I wonder if you have any insight on that.
Dr. Weaver: I do. I think that the first is education, which I think we've touched on quite, quite a bit, but it's not hard to pick up a book or get on a few websites and do some reading. There's nuances to trans folks. And the more you know, the more you're armed with I think about the idea that I, my, I call myself like a mom and a trans guy and I'm nonbinary and people are like, what in the world? But, you know, I'm honoring who I am and the language that affirms me. And so when we're doing reading, we need to make sure that it's diverse. And that's another thing. So you don't want to read from just one perspective. And so take some time when you're picking up reading and saying, you know, is this person of color or is this person - disability’s a really big one, especially among our population, the trans community, we represent everyone, right? So there's going to be a lot of disabled, there's going to be a lot of neurodivergent. So picking up books or reading articles from varying perspectives is very important. It also helps you undo a lot of the isms that we're talking about.
The second is just get look up what's going on locally. Who, you know, what, what organization is doing what and see if you can maybe volunteer a little bit of time. They might not need you to come in if you don't have face-to-face hours and maybe they need you to, I don't know, work on, you know, maybe your trade is helping out with like social media or something.
But anyway, just the idea is could you help a local organization and that will absolutely give you more access. Because now you're interacting with trans people, right, and the more you're interacting with people who you don't know, in communities you don't know, you get to expand your view. I honestly, I think those would be the first two things because we're all very busy and we all say, oh, it's just so sad, oh, that's terrible.
I don't have a much time. But if you say, well, in my, my monthly reading, I'm going to download this audio book, maybe give an hour here to a nonprofit. I think we have that. And it really can have a big impact on you and others around you because as you start to learn, you're going to use correct language.
You're going to halt someone who's maybe talking in a way that's not respectful to trans people. You're going to teach your own family. Maybe your kids aren't trans or, or, or gender diverse, but you're imparting what you're learning to them. And that, that has a pretty big impact.
Mandy: It sounds like almost thinking of yourself as a sponge and, and taking in that education and like I said, gosh, the interaction with actual trans people is so important. I know that was huge in my journey. It kind of takes you out of the theoretical or, or the, the abstract into real life. And then it permeates kind of the rest of your life and the rest of your interactions with people.
What books, do you have any books in mind that you would recommend to people that, that have stood out to you? I know that's a big question. There's probably a million.
Dr. Weaver: I hate to say this, but I'm and I just told people to read right, but I'm I'm one of I am. I am. Yeah, I am. I am. I've got I'm just it's so terrible. It's hard to think of my titles because I've got like a Rolodex of audio Audible books like, Oh, what am I in the mood for because I'm in the car alot I've got teens and we're going all over the place all the time.
Um, but something I think I just talked about was the Risk it Takes to Bloom is by a trans, Black trans woman that is powerful. And I like to, to center Black or indigenous trans women specifically because they are very, very high vulnerable right now, highly vulnerable in terms of our statistics.
Um, and so that one is one that comes to mind, but I will say another thing that I do often to, which is probably cheating a little bit as I follow a lot of a lot of Instagram pages. So I'm getting blurbs here and there and that and that is really great. Like I follow M. D. Safe Haven, which is Iya Dammons is a Black trans woman in Baltimore doing some incredible work for trans folks.
And it just feels like she's like, this is needed and I'm doing it and I don't care what other people think. You know, she offers. housing you know, gender-affirming hormone care. She's got like, I think university of Maryland, an organization coming in and providing gender-affirming hormone care. So, you know, that work and they, they held their first Trans Pride, like she organized it all first Trans Pride in Baltimore a few years ago and has successively done it.
And she's at the head. So, you know, these are types of organizations I follow. And then I just, I read what they put out, you know, they put out an article, something here or there. That's been really helpful. There's another trans woman named Imara Jones online. She's TransLash Media. So, you know, just listening to her podcast and her, her writings and things like that.
So, so I guess when I said read, maybe I, maybe I'm also more online, but that's my way cause I'm, I feel I'm a bit pulled in a lot of different ways, but if you're feeling pulled, maybe it's not necessarily a whole book, but you're, and I do have some books. I just can't think of the names for sure, but they definitely books help me get started in learning more as well. Learning about the trans experience.
Mandy: Well, I don't think that's cheating at all. I think it's, it's how you learn. Some people, you know, you'd say, Oh, here's this 300-page book. And they'd be like, yeah, there's no way I'm going to look at that. And yeah. Oh, I get it. Being in the car with teens, that's yeah, that's a thing or a commute or whatever it is.
So audiobooks and yeah, podcasts are awesome. Um, and honestly, social media that I think is not cheating because so many creators, influencers, thought leaders, whatever you want to say, are trans people and trans people of color. You are, you get to learn from their experience in what feels like a close way, but being able to again, like absorb in a, in an easy bite-sized kind of way. And like someone had given me the idea I can't remember what it was about, but to change your feed and go and say, if there's something you want to learn about, go follow 50 people who are around that thing. And then your feed will change and you will again, absorb it. And, and really start thinking about those things more. So, so yeah, that's not cheating. That's okay.
Okay. Well, I know you are a busy person and so I don't want to take up too much more of your time. Thank you so much for talking with me today. Where do you want people to find you or where can they go? What are you promoting right now? Yeah, where do you want people to go?
Dr. Weaver: Absolutely, well, the TransMD, so at the TransMD, I'm pretty active on Instagram. I just recently started, you know, also posting on TikTok, but it's mainly on Instagram. And that's just a mix of professional and personal stories about my own transitioning and stuff. And then dealing sort of being with a mom and a trans guy and non-binary.
@RMD Proud is the, and at Resolve MD are the two practice websites a little less active and those are sort of the, the main ways. I do have a practice website, www.resolvemd.org, and there's a gender care page. So I am really focusing on the gender-affirming care, typically not taking a lot of primary care patients right now, unless it's a trans or gender-diverse patient that also needs primary care.
And so that, those are the, that's really what I have my hand in. I've been enjoying being part of the Queer Trans Project, which is an organization based out of Florida by two wonderful Black trans queer founders. And they're doing great work they offer something called Gender Grip and queer kits for queer and trans folks that if you keep, watch it so you can get it for free just to make sure you're keeping out and knowing when it's being stocked.
And they do a lot of community work as well. And they even have a hotline to call for sort of queer and trans folks, they call it the Queer QTP Love Line, which is here in the United States. And I am looking, moving towards a lot more consulting and also some work with kind of developing a bit of a place where people can get a lot of resources, access a lot of resources easily.
Mandy: And that is so needed because as you're saying, like, when you're looking for resources for your patients and to, to be able to have that in one place for, for others, it could be incredibly helpful. So listener, if you would like to show gratitude for Dr. Weaver and his work, then you can give a donation to Queer Trans Project or to MD Safe Haven, which is, sounds like a fabulous organization doing incredible work over in that area.
So thank you again. I appreciate your time and I hope to talk with you soon!
Dr. Weaver: Absolutely. Thank you for having me and thank you for what you're doing as well.